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	<title>Comments on: How To Beat A Traffic Ticket in Toronto</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it&#039;s easier to just stay at the speed limit.  That way the cops have no reason to give you a ticket.  Why give the government yet another excuse to suck money out of our wallets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it&#8217;s easier to just stay at the speed limit.  That way the cops have no reason to give you a ticket.  Why give the government yet another excuse to suck money out of our wallets?</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can take anywhere from 3 to 8 months or more depending on the backlog. The JPs are extremely biased towards to cops so if he shows up just plead with the prosecutor to give you a reduced fine. There is no real justice once you get to court since everyone is just there to process your payment. I&#039;ve been to many trials and 100% of the time the JP went with what the cop said even though his only proof was his stupid little notebook. So just plead it out and pay a reduced fine because there is no real way for you to prove that the lying cop was rude to you or that he actually saw you go through a light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can take anywhere from 3 to 8 months or more depending on the backlog. The JPs are extremely biased towards to cops so if he shows up just plead with the prosecutor to give you a reduced fine. There is no real justice once you get to court since everyone is just there to process your payment. I&#8217;ve been to many trials and 100% of the time the JP went with what the cop said even though his only proof was his stupid little notebook. So just plead it out and pay a reduced fine because there is no real way for you to prove that the lying cop was rude to you or that he actually saw you go through a light.</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently got a ticket for &quot;fail to stop at red light&quot;.  I was making a right hand turn.  It was 730 in the morning driving south on Main street at Kingston road.  The upcoming traffic light just turned red.  Eastbound traffic has an advance green.  I did a slow-down observed the advance green and proceeded to turn right.  The only other car on the road that Sunday morning was a police officer.  Sirens go on I pull over.  The officer approaches the car and asks me where I am going - so I tell him (work and the location).  He then says &quot;Can I have your driver&#039;s liceince hun? Pass it to him, he returns about 10 minutes later tells me he viewed the camera and needs to give me a ticket.. hun.  The officer never told me why I was pulled over and when I began to ask him questions he turned and walked away from my car.

I have put this ticket into court... $325 and 3 points.  Do you know approximately how long it will take for this ticket to come to court and what my chances would be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently got a ticket for &#8220;fail to stop at red light&#8221;.  I was making a right hand turn.  It was 730 in the morning driving south on Main street at Kingston road.  The upcoming traffic light just turned red.  Eastbound traffic has an advance green.  I did a slow-down observed the advance green and proceeded to turn right.  The only other car on the road that Sunday morning was a police officer.  Sirens go on I pull over.  The officer approaches the car and asks me where I am going &#8211; so I tell him (work and the location).  He then says &#8220;Can I have your driver&#8217;s liceince hun? Pass it to him, he returns about 10 minutes later tells me he viewed the camera and needs to give me a ticket.. hun.  The officer never told me why I was pulled over and when I began to ask him questions he turned and walked away from my car.</p>
<p>I have put this ticket into court&#8230; $325 and 3 points.  Do you know approximately how long it will take for this ticket to come to court and what my chances would be?</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just BS. It&#039;s a way for them to make you feel like you&#039;re catching a break so you won&#039;t fight the other charge. They do it all the time. That&#039;s why traffic cops often ask for your insurance and ownership when they pull you over for speeding or any other offence. It&#039;s easier for them to issue multiple tickets at one time. You should just fight the charges so at least it costs them money instead of making cash off of you. Either way you can&#039;t get a worse fine and you have a chance of getting off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just BS. It&#8217;s a way for them to make you feel like you&#8217;re catching a break so you won&#8217;t fight the other charge. They do it all the time. That&#8217;s why traffic cops often ask for your insurance and ownership when they pull you over for speeding or any other offence. It&#8217;s easier for them to issue multiple tickets at one time. You should just fight the charges so at least it costs them money instead of making cash off of you. Either way you can&#8217;t get a worse fine and you have a chance of getting off.</p>
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		<title>By: CM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 16:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was pulled over by a cop who issued me two tickets: one for expired plate permit and another for having a tinted plate cover. He said that he would give me a break and that if I went to the MTO/prosecutor and showed proof (take a picture of my license plate) that I updated my plate permit and got rid of the cover, that I wouldn&#039;t get fined or get any demerit points. Is this just BS? I mean if that&#039;s the case couldn&#039;t he just give me a warning and let me off? How would the prosecutor know to drop all charges?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pulled over by a cop who issued me two tickets: one for expired plate permit and another for having a tinted plate cover. He said that he would give me a break and that if I went to the MTO/prosecutor and showed proof (take a picture of my license plate) that I updated my plate permit and got rid of the cover, that I wouldn&#8217;t get fined or get any demerit points. Is this just BS? I mean if that&#8217;s the case couldn&#8217;t he just give me a warning and let me off? How would the prosecutor know to drop all charges?</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ling,

Either way you should fight it so it costs the government money. That&#039;s the only way to really put a stop to this. You can also try contacting the city to find out on what day the sign was placed there. With some persistence you can get the information out of the city because they will have a record of any work done on the street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ling,</p>
<p>Either way you should fight it so it costs the government money. That&#8217;s the only way to really put a stop to this. You can also try contacting the city to find out on what day the sign was placed there. With some persistence you can get the information out of the city because they will have a record of any work done on the street.</p>
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		<title>By: Ling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just last week, I got a traffic ticket for making a left turn during a set hour where you can&#039;t turn at Maxome Ave (near Finch station). When my car was pulled over, I was not sure what is going on. I know that there was a sign for no-right turn, but there was no sign for no left turn. There were over 20 cars stopped that day. During the incident, I do not the chance to take picture of any signs or what so ever. Next day, they placed a no-left turn sign.

I am not too sure how about I&#039;m going at this. Like if there is any possible way to confirm when the sign for no-left turn was placed up. I tried calling my ward MP. But all I was told that after I received a ticket, they have no control over anything. All I can do is go to court and if it is shown that there were many individuals on that day received the no-left turn traffic ticket, then they will look into it. However, how am I suppose to find that out? What to do? Pretty clueless now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just last week, I got a traffic ticket for making a left turn during a set hour where you can&#8217;t turn at Maxome Ave (near Finch station). When my car was pulled over, I was not sure what is going on. I know that there was a sign for no-right turn, but there was no sign for no left turn. There were over 20 cars stopped that day. During the incident, I do not the chance to take picture of any signs or what so ever. Next day, they placed a no-left turn sign.</p>
<p>I am not too sure how about I&#8217;m going at this. Like if there is any possible way to confirm when the sign for no-left turn was placed up. I tried calling my ward MP. But all I was told that after I received a ticket, they have no control over anything. All I can do is go to court and if it is shown that there were many individuals on that day received the no-left turn traffic ticket, then they will look into it. However, how am I suppose to find that out? What to do? Pretty clueless now.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene Montgomery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi: I missed a court date for a traffic violation recently for reasons I won&#039;t go in to. What happens now? Is there anything I should do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi: I missed a court date for a traffic violation recently for reasons I won&#8217;t go in to. What happens now? Is there anything I should do?</p>
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		<title>By: Rona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Your help is appreciated regarding the disclosure request. 

I have faxed 2 requiests and for the second one, I got response asking for my phone number. I have faxed the phone number back and have not heard from the prosecutor since.

On the court date, I told the prosecutor that I had not received the disclosure and showed her the fax records but she said she had not received my last fax. The officer who gave me the ticket came over to me and provided the photocopy of his notes and rescheduled a new court date 3 months later.

My question is, should the copy of notes directly from the officer considered the disclosure, or should I continue to ask for the disclosure from the prosecutor?

BTW, the ticket is about fail to stop when meeting school bus on a 5 lane road, which I and my passanger did not see before or after being stopped by the officer.

Thank very much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Your help is appreciated regarding the disclosure request. </p>
<p>I have faxed 2 requiests and for the second one, I got response asking for my phone number. I have faxed the phone number back and have not heard from the prosecutor since.</p>
<p>On the court date, I told the prosecutor that I had not received the disclosure and showed her the fax records but she said she had not received my last fax. The officer who gave me the ticket came over to me and provided the photocopy of his notes and rescheduled a new court date 3 months later.</p>
<p>My question is, should the copy of notes directly from the officer considered the disclosure, or should I continue to ask for the disclosure from the prosecutor?</p>
<p>BTW, the ticket is about fail to stop when meeting school bus on a 5 lane road, which I and my passanger did not see before or after being stopped by the officer.</p>
<p>Thank very much!</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Last night I was pulled over by a cop driving in the highway and he claimed that I was going 147 km/hr and issued me a $347 ticket! I am definitely going to take to court but I just don&#039;t know what are some defense methods that I can use? There is no way I was going that fast maybe around 130 max. 
I also noticed that the cop did not ask for my insurance and registration and only asked if it was my car and I said no cause it wasn&#039;t it was my friends. He just took my licencse and came back with the ticket. I&#039;v never been issued a ticket before and have always had a clean record. Please help me out I am a student and can&#039;t afford to go trough all this financial trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Last night I was pulled over by a cop driving in the highway and he claimed that I was going 147 km/hr and issued me a $347 ticket! I am definitely going to take to court but I just don&#8217;t know what are some defense methods that I can use? There is no way I was going that fast maybe around 130 max.<br />
I also noticed that the cop did not ask for my insurance and registration and only asked if it was my car and I said no cause it wasn&#8217;t it was my friends. He just took my licencse and came back with the ticket. I&#8217;v never been issued a ticket before and have always had a clean record. Please help me out I am a student and can&#8217;t afford to go trough all this financial trouble.</p>
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