Toyota Canada
Toyota Canada demonstrates what a terrible company they are.
I have a 2001 first generation Prius. We bought it new, are the first and only owners, and keep it serviced at Toyota Dealers-first Richmond Open Road Toyota and then Granville Toyota, near our home.
Except for the car’s odd over-sensitivity to set off engine warning lights if the gas cap isn’t quite closed, and a tendency to fire off all the alarms during a cold spell, we have been happy.
But not so with Toyota Canada. Our car was re-ended in downtown Vancovuer in August 2009. It sustained quite a bit of damage-suprisingly, and my daughter and her partner were knocked about. The collison repair people removed the bumper to discover that the bumper was simply a hollow shell. The bolts were clean, indicating no rebar had ever been installed, nor had foam to absorb the impact. The insurance company paid for the repair costs and injuries, but would not pay to repair the bumper’s missing parts-rebar and foam -since they weren’t there to begin with. I contacted the dealer, Open Road Toyota, and they told me to bring in the paper work when I picked up the car and they would contact Toyota Canada. I did and then proceded to be jerked around by Toyota Canada for months.
First, two weeks after I contacted the dealer and Toyota Canada, they wanted the bumper (despite the insurance and collison repair photos and my early contact with the dealer, they wanted the old shell of the bumper. the repair shop had recycled it and neither the dealer nor Toyota Canada had indicated that the bumper should be kept. )
Second, they had to run it all by the legal department.
I reasonably asked that they check into the car and examine it for safety/. Was the car properly built-for example, was the front bumper complete with the specified rebar and foam? the door panels? Toyota Canada replied that since my 7 year purchased full warranty had expired, they had absolutely no obligation to look into that. If I was concerned about the car, I would have to pay to have it looked at. Presumably, I was to guess whether it was safe to drive. After a few weeks of pointless conversations with Toyota Canada and “Mike” at 1-888- Toyota 8 local 3361 should anyone wish to call Mike from Toyota Canada-I called Open Road and the service manager offered to take off the door panels and bumper to check that the car was safe. He seemed suprised Toyota Canada hadn’t immediately arranged that, and agreed the concern was valid.
Second, Toyota Canada via Mike informed me they would reimburse me for the costs of the rebar and foam in my new bumper (800 plus dollars) as a good will gesture if i would sign a release absolving Toyota Canada of any future claims by me or by anyother party. In essence, this meant that I would be sued by the Insurance corporation should they decide to pursue the incident because the car itself was unsafe and shouldn’t have been on the road.
Mike agrued that Toyota couldn’t proved (substitute my name here) that the bumper was a Toyota bumper. This despite the photographs taken at the collison repair shop, the insurance appraisers’ reports, the unblemished service record from Toyota dealers who presumably can’t tell a toyota bumper and paint job from a fake bumper in all the year the car, the tires, and even the battery have been subject to their service technicians ministrations.
Even the service technicians, both Prius trained, were stunned by Toyota Canada’s attitude and refusal to check over the car.
So I want to be clear I am not out of pocket-ICBC will not pursue a law suit against me-the Richmond Open Road Toyota Dealer service department was lovely and checked out the car for free.
But I find the treatment by Toyota Canada and their complete lack of concern for whether their cars are safe despite what was an obvious manufacturer’s defect astounds me.
There comment that the warranty had expired in 2008 and so they had absolutely no reason to look at the car was shocking.
My only consolation is that among my family, my adult children’s families, my brothers, sisters, inlaws and cousins we own 23 Toyotas-camrays, priuses, echoes, Rav4s, two vans and even a convertible.
And as a close knit group with a shared sense of outrage, none of us will buy another, despite a fondness for the cars (dating, in my case, back to the early Tercel). We vow to become a Honda family, extended.
I believe Toyota makes good cars, that Mike (at local 3361) is a pleasant human being, but that Toyota Canada doesn’t take any corporate responsibility to make sure their cars and their consumers driving the cars, are safe. They are a bad company.
My advice is, buy another manufacturers’ product. or if you buy a Toyota, realize you are on your own.
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November 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Oh so quick to jump to Honda. Well if your looking for true value…maybe you should consider Subaru. Subaru does have higher customer satisfaction ratings than any manyfacturer, as well as higher customer retention ratios.
February 24th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I HAVE A 2003 RAV 4 HAVE 140,000 KM ONLY, BUT EVER TIME I DRIVE MORE THAN 60 OK. BEGINNING FROM THE STOP SIGN, IT JERKS, & GAS PEDAL IS TIGHT.
WENT TO DEALER TOLD ME TO CHANGE TRANSMISSION, BUT THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THE DASH BOARD. CANNOT GUARRANTY IF ITS GOING TOBE PERFECT.
THERE IS NO DISCOUNT FOR NEW CARS.
I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS COMPANT ANYMORE. I CANNOT TRUST THEM
June 24th, 2010 at 6:09 am
today i received a reminder from grandville toyota that i should consider getting an oil change ,i got this 2003 corolla from the toyota store front mentioned the car is in very good condition looks great very clean ,it was in an accident before i purchased it the sales man was reluctant to provide any details and told me that he did not have any knowledge of the details or extent of prior damage as far as i know it was a lease vehicle he said it was not from his dealership it was taken on trade ,however my complaint is that i told the sales rep that i got a total fluid change at mr lube it cost 395 bucks oil package /cooling system/transmission fluid/the reason i got it done was because when i checked the oil and tranny levels the oil was dirty and like dried molasis and barely showing on the stick/the tranny fluid was the same i started to freak out,so i took it to the place that in my words has a good reputation and a great customer service,i did this service 6 months after i purchased the car ,when i made the rep aware of this he started to get defensive and told me that i was just trying to get recovery on the cost’s for the new fluids that had been installed ,it was like how dare you when we did 800 plus dollars of service on the vehicle and it included fluids etc i forgot to mention the rad fluid had to be changed i saw the gauge it was toast to,the sales rep kept giveing me the third degree for telling him about my experience,and told me that it’s my fault takeing it to the defamitorially, if that is a word,refered to lube shop who i have used for years for all my vehicles,the reason i called them was not to complain but to point out that somethig got lost at the point of sale ,i call it the seal of good house keeping,after that i felt realy bad about myself ,these people give me the creeps ,i will never go back to this place period/i think that toyota canada owes me an appology for allowing one of it’s dealers give me the shuffle and treat me like crap. oh i forgot to mention i only drove 4000k from the phantom fluid installation. at the end of the conversation i had to cut it off this person was realy starting to offend me i said have a nice day i’m calling the news paper and hung up.
July 16th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Transmission on 2003 Toyota Matrix just died. Will cost around $3,000 to repair. It has high mileage – 200,000 km – but generally you expect to drive an old Toyota for a little while longer. Has this changed?